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On average, how often do you use the greater Observatory Mesa area (i.e., Lowell Observatory, Observatory Mesa Natural Area, and abutting National Forest)? (See map, above)

Response Percent Response Count
5 or more times per week 14.8% 27
2 to 5 times per week 22.4% 41
1 to 2 times per week 31.7% 58
Less than once per month 27.9% 51
Never, I don't use this area 3.3% 6

When do you typically use the greater Observatory Mesa area?

Response Percent Response Count
Weekdays (Monday-Friday) 24.0% 44
Weekends (Saturday-Sunday) 8.7% 16
Both weekdays and weekends 63.9% 117
Never, I don’t use the area 2.7% 5
Other 0.5% 1

How well do you think the plan addresses the following priorities? (1 = poorly addressed, 2 = neutral, 3 = well addressed) (review the draft plan linked in the survey introduction)

Maintains sensitivity to natural and cultural resources (i.e., sufficient buffer around wildlife habitat, sensitive watersheds and springs, cultural resources)
Response Percent Response Count
1 6.7% 12
2 23.5% 42
3 69.3% 124
Provides educational zones
Response Percent Response Count
1 2.2% 4
2 49.7% 89
3 46.9% 84
Provides sufficient parking
Response Percent Response Count
1 11.2% 20
2 38.0% 68
3 49.7% 89
Provides appropriate access points
Response Percent Response Count
1 10.6% 19
2 24.6% 44
3 64.2% 115
Maintains or creates a sufficient number of trails for use
Response Percent Response Count
1 5.6% 10
2 20.1% 36
3 72.1% 129
Rehabilitates a sufficient number of trails for conservation or reduces redundancy
Response Percent Response Count
1 4.5% 8
2 24.0% 43
3 70.4% 126
Provides appropriate mountain biking alignments
Response Percent Response Count
1 12.3% 22
2 29.6% 53
3 55.9% 100
Addresses appropriate signage
Response Percent Response Count
1 3.9% 7
2 30.2% 54
3 63.1% 113

Would the proposed formal trail system for the greater Observatory Mesa area be an improvement of the current conditions? (see maps, above and review the draft plan linked in the survey introduction)

Response Percent Response Count
Yes 74.4% 134
Moderately 17.2% 31
No 5.0% 9
Unsure 3.3% 6

Should Class 1 E-bikes be allowed on the proposed trail system for the greater Observatory Mesa area? There may be an opportunity to allow E-bike use within the planning area. Class 1 E-bikes are pedal-assist bikes that can travel at speeds up to 20 miles an hour.

Response Percent Response Count
Yes 35.5% 65
Only on certain trails (ex: urban trail/FUTS and commuter routes) 43.2% 79
No 20.8% 38
Unsure 0.5% 1

Do you support the inclusion of the following trail design types in the Greater Observatory Mesa Trail Plan? (1 = No, 2 = neutral, 3 = Yes)

Adaptive Biking Trails (trails with 36-inch width)
Response Percent Response Count
1 8.2% 15
2 20.3% 37
3 71.4% 130
Trails open to Class 1 E-bikes (i.e., pedal-assist bikes limited to 20 miles per hour)
Response Percent Response Count
1 35.7% 65
2 21.4% 39
3 42.9% 78
Trails intended for specific uses (ex. directional trails, mountain biking, hiking) but open to all users
Response Percent Response Count
1 12.1% 22
2 16.5% 30
3 71.4% 130

Several dirt roads in the focus area will be retained for administrative uses. Should these roads be used as trail connectors to reduce overall impact, or would you prefer a new trail be developed adjacent to some of these existing roads to provide additional user experience? (see maps, above)

Response Percent Response Count
Prefer to use existing roads rather than develop new adjacent trails 26.5% 48
Prefer a balance of road connectors and new adjacent trail experiences 37.6% 68
Prefer to develop new adjacent trails rather than use existing roads 30.9% 56
No preference 5.0% 9

Please provide comments regarding what experiences you prefer as it relates to using existing roads vs. new proposed trails.

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Please provide further comments and direction on your views associated with any aspect you think this plan should consider. Specificity will assist us in using feedback to make plan revisions. (i.e., include: location, solutions, access point numbers, trail id numbers, section numbers, etc.).

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Would you like to receive future news about the Greater Observatory Mesa Trail Plan? Enter e-mail if interested.

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131
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What is your home ZIP code?

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July 15, 2023, 5:01 PM
  • On average, how often do you use the greater Observatory Mesa area (i.e., Lowell Observatory, Observatory Mesa Natural Area, and abutting National Forest)? (See map, above)
    • 5 or more times per week
  • When do you typically use the greater Observatory Mesa area?
    • Both weekdays and weekends
  • How well do you think the plan addresses the following priorities? (1 = poorly addressed, 2 = neutral, 3 = well addressed) (review the draft plan linked in the survey introduction)
    • Maintains sensitivity to natural and cultural resources (i.e., sufficient buffer around wildlife habitat, sensitive watersheds and springs, cultural resources) - 3
    • Provides sufficient parking - 3
    • Provides appropriate access points - 3
    • Maintains or creates a sufficient number of trails for use - 2
    • Rehabilitates a sufficient number of trails for conservation or reduces redundancy - 2
    • Provides appropriate mountain biking alignments - 1
    • Addresses appropriate signage - 2
  • Would the proposed formal trail system for the greater Observatory Mesa area be an improvement of the current conditions? (see maps, above and review the draft plan linked in the survey introduction)
    • No
  • Should Class 1 E-bikes be allowed on the proposed trail system for the greater Observatory Mesa area? There may be an opportunity to allow E-bike use within the planning area. Class 1 E-bikes are pedal-assist bikes that can travel at speeds up to 20 miles an hour.
    • No
  • Do you support the inclusion of the following trail design types in the Greater Observatory Mesa Trail Plan? (1 = No, 2 = neutral, 3 = Yes)
    • Adaptive Biking Trails (trails with 36-inch width) - 2
    • Trails open to Class 1 E-bikes (i.e., pedal-assist bikes limited to 20 miles per hour) - 1
    • Trails intended for specific uses (ex. directional trails, mountain biking, hiking) but open to all users - 1
  • Several dirt roads in the focus area will be retained for administrative uses. Should these roads be used as trail connectors to reduce overall impact, or would you prefer a new trail be developed adjacent to some of these existing roads to provide additional user experience? (see maps, above)
    • Prefer to use existing roads rather than develop new adjacent trails
  • Please provide comments regarding what experiences you prefer as it relates to using existing roads vs. new proposed trails.
    No response.
  • Please provide further comments and direction on your views associated with any aspect you think this plan should consider. Specificity will assist us in using feedback to make plan revisions. (i.e., include: location, solutions, access point numbers, trail id numbers, section numbers, etc.).
    Please consider and incorporate the following comments regarding the GOMA Trail Plan 2023 Draft as the planning process moves forward. As you know, I have been an active contributor of comments regarding the proposed GOMA Trail Plan since it was first revealed to the public in 2022. I appreciate that as the planning process has progressed you have seriously considered and incorporated the comments and feedback I have provided thus far. At the last public meeting it became obvious to me how extensively the GOMA Trail Plan proposal has been primarily influenced by and dominated by a single user group–this user group being mountain bikers. As a result of this specific user group’s influence, I believe the plan and planning process itself has evolved to the point where it promotes mountain bikers as the priority user group, thus relegating walkers, hikers, and runners to a second class user group on Obserservatory Mesa. I believe that this plan will result in the conversion of Observatory Mesa into a recreation area massively dominated by mountain bikers from what is now mostly a foot traffic user group. Such a conversion represents a massive change in the user experience for those who choose to recreate on Observatory Mesa. The citizens of Flagstaff who approved the purchase of the State Land sections represent a much broader base of users than mountain bikers. Over the past couple years mountain bikers have come to dominate many of the trails around Flagstaff. The trails, both new and old, around Dry Lake Hills, are full of mountain bikers, a noticeable proportion of whom disregard the right-of-way triangle and routinely expect hikers and runners to rapidly move out their way even when it is not reasonable to so with immediacy. The pedestrian user experience in Dry Lake Hills, as well as on the Arizona Trail sections around Flagstaff, have become a mountain biking mecca–at the detriment to people who walk or run. This change is similar to that which occurred in Moab, UT over the past 20 years. I do not believe that Flagstaff should become dominated by the mountain biker user group like has occurred in Moab. And I do not believe that Observatory Mesa should become another area dominated by mountain bikers as I believe would be the case with the proposed GOMA Trail Plan. I therefore request that the GOMA trail planning process take a step back and reflect on how the mountain biking user group has one-sidedly influenced the overall set of assumptions upon which many parts of the plan are based. The interests and desires of the pedestrian based user groups need to be solicited and incorporated into the proposal. I am a mountain biker, hiker, and trail runner myself, so I am not opposed to progressively and thoughtfully creating a set of well designed rails on Observatory Mesa. However, such a trail system, by intentional planning and design, should not be focused on mountain biking as the dominant use on the mesa. Motorized e-bikes should not be allowed anywhere across Observatory Mesa. The very idea that the City of Flagstaff would request a special exception from the US Forest Service to allow e-bikes potentially sets a precedent with the USFS that could end up allowing e-bikes across many more USFS trails where E-bikes are incompatible with pedestrian trail users due to the speed of the e-bike. I also foresee e-bikers being even more impatient with pedestrian trail users than is already the case, thus resulting in a lower quality experience for hikers and walkers. All proposed and existing trails on Observatory Mesa should be bi-directional and open to all permitted user groups. One-way, downhill trails for the exclusive use of mountain bikers should not be permitted. The unpermitted trails/routes illegally constructed by mountain bikers should be rehabilitated and redesigned, where appropriate, or totally closed if they are causing resource damage. I support the design and construction of a trail that is capable of accommodating adaptive cycles. Thank you for seriously considering these comments and for incorporating them substantively into the planning process and plan as it moves forward.
  • Would you like to receive future news about the Greater Observatory Mesa Trail Plan? Enter e-mail if interested.
    yes - [email protected]
  • What is your home ZIP code?
    86001
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Maintains sensitivity to natural and cultural resources (i.e., sufficient buffer around wildlife habitat, sensitive watersheds and springs, cultural resources)
Provides educational zones
Provides sufficient parking
Provides appropriate access points
Maintains or creates a sufficient number of trails for use
Rehabilitates a sufficient number of trails for conservation or reduces redundancy
Provides appropriate mountain biking alignments
Addresses appropriate signage
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Adaptive Biking Trails (trails with 36-inch width)
Trails open to Class 1 E-bikes (i.e., pedal-assist bikes limited to 20 miles per hour)
Trails intended for specific uses (ex. directional trails, mountain biking, hiking) but open to all users
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